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Additionally, we are determining what the best option available is for users who initially entered an incorrect date of birth. As a temporary solution, anyone who is experiencing this problem can contact coppa@livejournal.com with their username and a copy of any government issued identification which includes a date of birth.
I can’t even begin to explain how freaked I am about this.  Seriously, do they expect ppl to upload or email an official document to prove their age.
I love LJ for its contact with fandom communities and users. This is messing with my joy big time.
They really help their customers decide to leave…
I will post this in my lj too.
So… if I were a 14-year-old, I’d now come forward, out of the goodness of my heart and because I can’t live with the lie anymore? This doesn’t make sense, does it? Why would anyone do that?
Do you know what’s going on with JF? How is it shaping up there. Last I heard, they were upgrading the system.
Stupid much. Why would I provide private info about me knowing another country had full access to that info. I’m having a difficult time believing this about saving the kiddies from eval harmful stuff. There are youngsters out there that could turn my ears pink just listening to them, which is damn hard to do.
I suspect much obfuscation as in there is an underlying hidden reason for this.
No clue, but I think I’ll go over there more often now. I’ll keep my lj so I can still comment on my friends journals, so that I don’t loose contact.
Lj is becoming a very inhospitable place, yes?
This simply means that if you are an adult, and as a joke or whatever, you listed your age as 10 years old, you would now have to demonstrate that you are, in fact, an adult by showing id in order for them to take you out of the kiddie pool. This is because the system assumed the age you had listed at the time they implemented the filer is the correct age.
A voice of reason. It’s beyond me to think why would anyone state they’re ten when in fact they’re an adult. Of course, no one anticipated the events that are happening today on LJ.
My profile was without a birthdate. I provided one today and it was accepted without fanfare.
Thanks for the info.
I’m up for renewing LJ. Wavering here. Should I pay or not. This is the question. *ggg*
Now way is some Russian linked business getting my money. I will not renew when I am up for it. I have always had the simplest setting anyway and I have reduced my userpics already. ;D
Have written your Christmas card
*sniggers*
I think this is maybe kind-of related to an issue several people had. LJ tracks some kind of information (I believe it was the IP address, but it could also be something else, it’s been a while) about the computer, if you use it to open a “below 13″ account. after that happened, they won’t let you set up an “above 13″ account from that computer, ever again. I’ve read a few support requests where people complained that they couldn’t open adult accounts (even back when LJ was still Brad’s).
now, if you’ve never stated your age in your profile, setting one probably will not be an issue (especially if it was a ‘yes, I’m older than 13′ account). but if you’ve already set it to a birthdate that made you younger, for whatever reason… with the new adult flagging, the differentiation between minors and adults became more important, so I guess they cannot let you change it now, assuming kids just go and edit their age just so they have unlimited access.
I agree on the offical documents though. I don’t even like to hand it over as deposit to anybody. Or, like I had to a few months back, give it to a colleague who collected & copied driver’s licenses, and sent the copies over to the company hosting our servers (because they need to check IDs every time we go in that building, we’re hosting sensitive data/business-vital programs on our servers).
plus, it ain’t much of a proof since they could snag and scan the mother’s license anytime. children are very creative in their ways of getting what they want, after all.
It’s beyond me to think why would anyone state they’re ten when in fact they’re an adult.
*shrug* people like to pretend. why do they dress up at Halloween? it’s fun to pretend to be somebody/-thing else. I’ve seen weirder things than adults impersonating kids. Heh, I think I’ve *done* weirder things last night.
Of course, no one anticipated the events that are happening today on LJ
actually, I always did. with a community this big, I knew it was only a matter of time before the profile birth date became more than just informative for other users. IMO, LJ as originally founded by Brad and for a long while as kept by 6A, has been seriously lacking in that department. the only question about age while making a new account was below/above 13, but no further distinction between below/above 18. with the kind of content that LJ is widely used for these days, I think it is necessary.
still, it isn’t an optimal solution. but can you think of a better one?
we’re asking LJ to be proactive in protecting children from inappropriate content. so they take the measures they can take, with the tools they have: asking users to -truthfully- state their age, and restricting access.
LJ, and no other site that has ever asked you of your age (see: sex hotline/dating/erotic galleries and videos websites, etc) can do much more.
nobody says users don’t lie. but in that case, LJ is guilt-free.
LJ is aware of that fact though, and they try to minimize the risk of being called too trustful when common sense should tell us that this particular user quite probably IS lying (suddenly setting the age up).
I… am shutting up now. this is getting long-winded for a simple comment and I guess you already know what I’m trying to say.
I don’t work for SUP. SUP works for me. They offer a product and I choose to pay for the services offered. They are not my employer, whom I may have to hand over a copy of documents to fulfill employment requirements. If I have a problem I can simply take it up with the department who handles such things, and have a face to face. SUP/LJ staff isn’t exactly accessible to me as the employer.
There are risks involved running a social network like LJ, MySpace, Vox, etc. I’m all for flagging content as needed to keep underage from viewing content not appropriate for their age. Which is a big IF, because I’ve found kids will hack just for the fun of it.
I think communication between LJ staff and the user is needed and each case reviewed individually. Evaluate the communication and make a decision. Asking for government issue document to be stored on servers is opening the door for more problems.